Comments on: UN membership for Taiwan http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2007/10/un-membership-for-taiwan/ commentary on all things Taiwanese — Taiwan Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:43:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: David Reid http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2007/10/un-membership-for-taiwan/comment-page-1/#comment-59797 David Reid Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:03:43 +0000 http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2007/10/un-membership-for-taiwan/#comment-59797 Mark, I don't think I have any great expertise and don't want to make myself out to be a pundit or anything like that. However, the most likely thing that will happen is political change in China. I don't have that much hope in the UN itself. Mark, I don’t think I have any great expertise and don’t want to make myself out to be a pundit or anything like that. However, the most likely thing that will happen is political change in China. I don’t have that much hope in the UN itself.

]]> By: Sheena http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2007/10/un-membership-for-taiwan/comment-page-1/#comment-57012 Sheena Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:35:16 +0000 http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2007/10/un-membership-for-taiwan/#comment-57012 I believe that Taiwan will be accepted by UN someday in the near furture if we can have the same voice 'UN for Taiwan' I believe that Taiwan will be accepted by UN someday in the near furture if we can have the same voice ‘UN for Taiwan’

]]> By: Mark http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2007/10/un-membership-for-taiwan/comment-page-1/#comment-56963 Mark Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:10:42 +0000 http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2007/10/un-membership-for-taiwan/#comment-56963 So, which do you think is more likely, that China will change its position, or that the current UN veto system will be eliminated? You clearly have confidence that Taiwan will enter the UN, so I'm curious to know in which of those two possible ways you envision it happening. A transformation of the rest of the world's opinion doesn't really have that large of an impact on UN proceedings as long as they have a veto system. Consider how China was able to defeat UN bids for decades before world, and particularly European, support started shifting towards China's position in the past few years. So, which do you think is more likely, that China will change its position, or that the current UN veto system will be eliminated?

You clearly have confidence that Taiwan will enter the UN, so I’m curious to know in which of those two possible ways you envision it happening.

A transformation of the rest of the world’s opinion doesn’t really have that large of an impact on UN proceedings as long as they have a veto system. Consider how China was able to defeat UN bids for decades before world, and particularly European, support started shifting towards China’s position in the past few years.

]]> By: David Reid http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2007/10/un-membership-for-taiwan/comment-page-1/#comment-56916 David Reid Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:30:58 +0000 http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2007/10/un-membership-for-taiwan/#comment-56916 Mark, I understand that in the present it is next to impossible for Taiwan to enter the UN. However, circumstances can change and they can change quite quickly. A change in the government in China, reform of the UN or a transformation of the rest of the world's attitude to China and Taiwan could mean that Taiwan is suddenly in a position where it can enter the UN. I gave the example of East Timor. Other examples in recent history can easily be found. Especially the end of communism in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union and the end of apartheid in South Africa. Even just a few years before these things happened many people would have thought these kind of changes were impossible. Mark, I understand that in the present it is next to impossible for Taiwan to enter the UN. However, circumstances can change and they can change quite quickly. A change in the government in China, reform of the UN or a transformation of the rest of the world’s attitude to China and Taiwan could mean that Taiwan is suddenly in a position where it can enter the UN.

I gave the example of East Timor. Other examples in recent history can easily be found. Especially the end of communism in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union and the end of apartheid in South Africa. Even just a few years before these things happened many people would have thought these kind of changes were impossible.

]]> By: Mark http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2007/10/un-membership-for-taiwan/comment-page-1/#comment-56813 Mark Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:11:52 +0000 http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2007/10/un-membership-for-taiwan/#comment-56813 <blockquote>The day will come in the future when Taiwan takes its seat at the UN.</blockquote> China has veto powers in the UN. Are you predicting that they'll allow Taiwan to join, or that the UN's veto system will be scrapped?

The day will come in the future when Taiwan takes its seat at the UN.

China has veto powers in the UN. Are you predicting that they’ll allow Taiwan to join, or that the UN’s veto system will be scrapped?

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