Comments on: Taiwan travel videos on YouTube http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/ commentary on all things Taiwanese — Taiwan Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:43:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Vero http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-3120 Vero Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:11:34 +0000 http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/#comment-3120 In other words, both Shi-ru and Claire are right. The dance clip on Youtube is from Saisiyat as pointed out by Shi-ru; while the people in the photo are Atayal as mentioned by Claire. In other words, both Shi-ru and Claire are right. The dance clip on Youtube is from Saisiyat as pointed out by Shi-ru; while the people in the photo are Atayal as mentioned by Claire.

]]> By: Vero http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-3117 Vero Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:58:29 +0000 http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/#comment-3117 It can be confusing, lol. To my knowledge, the pic shown here is one of Tayal people (Tayal is official name, but Atyal is widely used. Both refer to the same people), yet the YouTube clip was caught in a Saisiyat ritual. Thanks for bringing up the topic of Taiwan aboriginal culture^^* It can be confusing, lol. To my knowledge, the pic shown here is one of Tayal people (Tayal is official name, but Atyal is widely used. Both refer to the same people), yet the YouTube clip was caught in a Saisiyat ritual. Thanks for bringing up the topic of Taiwan aboriginal culture^^*

]]> By: David Reid http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-3112 David Reid Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:50:40 +0000 http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/#comment-3112 I am now very confused about who is Atayal and who is Saisayat. Thanks to all for your comments though. I am now very confused about who is Atayal and who is Saisayat. Thanks to all for your comments though.

]]> By: Shi-ru http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-3062 Shi-ru Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:26:07 +0000 http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/#comment-3062 yes, that's what I think cuz I was in 矮靈祭 last year and I never saw the bells in other aboriginal tribes before. yes, that’s what I think cuz I was in 矮靈祭 last year and I never saw the bells in other aboriginal tribes before.

]]> By: Vero http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-3026 Vero Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:31:04 +0000 http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/#comment-3026 Hello all, I'm 100% positive that this is the Saisiyat people since I worked on a related project for the central mint in 2005 and did lots of research for it. You can see clearly the clan banners (肩旗/舞帽) and the back/hip rings (背響/臀鈴) in that YouTube clip. You can't see them anywhere else b/c they are trademarks of the Saisiyat. Plus, they are very sacred and can be seen only in Pashta'ay (a.k.a ritual of the black dwarf god). As for the Tayal people, their long dress adorned w/ beads and shells (貝珠衣) and long dress stiched with bells (綴鈴長衣) are unique, which are different from the back/hip rings in the clip. Hope this info helps^^ Hello all,

I’m 100% positive that this is the Saisiyat people since I worked on a related project for the central mint in 2005 and did lots of research for it. You can see clearly the clan banners (肩旗/舞帽) and the back/hip rings (背響/臀鈴) in that YouTube clip. You can’t see them anywhere else b/c they are trademarks of the Saisiyat. Plus, they are very sacred and can be seen only in Pashta’ay (a.k.a ritual of the black dwarf god).

As for the Tayal people, their long dress adorned w/ beads and shells (貝珠衣) and long dress stiched with bells (綴鈴長衣) are unique, which are different from the back/hip rings in the clip.

Hope this info helps^^

]]> By: zhaoman http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-1826 zhaoman Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:38:59 +0000 http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/#comment-1826 Thanks for the YouTube link! Thanks for the YouTube link!

]]> By: Shi-ru http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-1779 Shi-ru Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:53:39 +0000 http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/#comment-1779 Clair, I am sorry, but I think the video in the You Tube is Saisiyat, right? because the dancing, the flag and the clothes all look like "short black people ceremony" but this picture here doesn't look like Saisiyat. Clair,

I am sorry, but I think the video in the You Tube is Saisiyat, right? because the dancing, the flag and the clothes all look like “short black people ceremony” but this picture here doesn’t look like Saisiyat.

]]> By: claire http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-1753 claire Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:03:57 +0000 http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/#comment-1753 AND, David....pleses do me a favor to translate my comment, too. because it's important to other people know what;s going on here. I really care about that...and it's my pleasure to see my picture here ^^* AND, David….pleses do me a favor to translate my comment, too.
because it’s important to other people know what;s going on here.
I really care about that…and it’s my pleasure to see my picture here ^^*

]]> By: claire http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-1752 claire Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:01:16 +0000 http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/#comment-1752 DEAR shiru_ 我想你可能誤會了,這是泰雅族,他們正在進行文化祭裡面的"織布"舞. 因為我是泰雅人,我人在現場,照片也是我拍的. 歡迎你到我的相簿看一看.裡面有賽夏族矮靈祭,和泰雅族的服裝,形式,氣氛. 都有顯著差別. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cleverclaire1983/ 敬請指教 KIWAYHAYUN (Claire) <strong>David\'s translation:</strong> I think you may have some misunderstanding. This is the Atayal tribe. They are conducting the ceremony of the "cloth weaving" dance. Because I am Atayal; my husband was there and I took the photos. I welcome you to have a look at my photo album. It has photos of the Saisiyat "small people" ceremony and Atayal costumes, patterns and atmosphere. They both have a different appearance. [sorry if my translation is not perfect] DEAR shiru_

我想你可能誤會了,這是泰雅族,他們正在進行文化祭裡面的”織布”舞.
因為我是泰雅人,我人在現場,照片也是我拍的.
歡迎你到我的相簿看一看.裡面有賽夏族矮靈祭,和泰雅族的服裝,形式,氣氛.
都有顯著差別.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cleverclaire1983/

敬請指教

KIWAYHAYUN (Claire)

David\’s translation: I think you may have some misunderstanding. This is the Atayal tribe. They are conducting the ceremony of the “cloth weaving” dance. Because I am Atayal; my husband was there and I took the photos. I welcome you to have a look at my photo album. It has photos of the Saisiyat “small people” ceremony and Atayal costumes, patterns and atmosphere. They both have a different appearance. [sorry if my translation is not perfect]

]]> By: shiru http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-1696 shiru Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:54:02 +0000 http://blog.taiwan-guide.org/2006/12/taiwan-travel-videos-on-youtube/#comment-1696 OK! I am so sorry! cuz to me it's just easier to type in English! Sorry and I will do that in English next time. OK! I am so sorry! cuz to me it’s just easier to type in English! Sorry and I will do that in English next time.

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